Porn the Prom and Compromising Parents

Posted on March 23, 2012 by droach

A high school senior, Mike Stone, 18, has been barred from bringing Megan Piper, a 19 year old porn star from Los Angeles, to his senior prom. Apparently of the 600 women he Twittered Megan accepted. His message was “i have dinner hotel and ill give u a massage to.”

The school is banning Megan because in their words it “would be prohibited under Tartan’s standard prom procedures and would be inconsistent with two school district policies.”

The prom aside, (see an excellent article on the prom at http://preachinghelp.org/wordpress/is-there-life-without-a-prom by Steve Higginbotham), what is most disturbing to me is not the mentality and conduct of the 18 year old son, although that is indefensible, but the gutless compromise of his mother (the parent).

Mike’s mother, Diven, at first was disappointed by her son’s behavior but now in her words “I support him and I don’t understand what her profession has to do with anything.” Clearly Megan’s “profession” has something to do with it. Mike has already planned a hotel & massage. What if Mike introduced Megan to his mother Diven as his future wife and mother of her grand children? Would her “profession” matter then?

Far too many parents possess and express the same attitude as Mrs. Stone. My question is, “Why?” I believe it is because far too many parents have lost any moral authority with their children because they themselves do not want to be subject to God’s moral law. Far too many parents want their tobacco, alcohol (and other drugs), sexual immorality, etc. How can they with a straight face plead with their children to abstain?

“Don’t do as I do, do as I say” is bad parenting. It most certainly is not biblical parenting. Parents are to “bring them up in the training and admonition of the Lord” (Eph.6:4). One thing necessary for parents to do this is to follow those same principles themselves.

Some Christians are no better. Not only are they involved in the aforementioned things they also are lukewarm and different to the assembly of the church, Bible study, etc. They are as worldly as the world. Clearly they have not denied themselves (Lk.9:23) and have no intentions of doing so. They will reap what they sow (Gal.6:7,8).

None of us who are parents are perfect. We have made our mistakes and will make more in the future no doubt. When we do; all we can do is make it right and get back to God’s way. We should expect the same from our children. Parents have some backbone! Take a stand! Start living morally right before your children no matter how old they are. Don’t compromise the truth to try to be “cool” or popular. Parenting is not about popularity; its about preparing souls for eternity.

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The Dilemma of the Dreaded Double Standard

Posted on March 10, 2012 by droach

In The News: Teacher Leaves Wife, Kids for High School Student.

James Hooker, a high school teacher in Modesto, CA, left his wife and children and moved in with one of his 18 year old students named Jordan Powers. Powers’ mother is furious seeking to have charges brought against Hooker. The community as well is outraged by the situation.

So what? What’s the big deal? Didn’t you know that-

(WHO you love shouldn’t matter, only that you do LOVE! I don’t believe the way someone lives their life is any of my or anyone else’s business. I was raised to believe that judging people is wrong. I have raised my children that love prevails …all. Also, I have taught them that they are not to JUDGE anyone. I was always taught not to judge lest ye be judged… Unless you have walked a mile in anyone else’s shoes you can never speak of what they have to go through. When you judge others there is integrity lost. When you judge someone that you have not possibly know what their life is like you have opened yourself to be judged and to be seen by a “bigot”.)

NO, THOSE WORDS (in parenthesis above) ARE NOT MY WORDS. They are words directed toward me by some on Facebook in a discussion about Ellen DeGeneres because I dared to affirm that engaging in consensual sexual relations with a person of the same gender (homosexual conduct) was/is IMMORAL. I still affirm it.

Let’s apply the philosophy & views expressed above to the Hooker-Powers situation.

(1) “WHO you love shouldn’t matter, only that you do LOVE!”

Mr. Hooker and Miss Powers agree with you. Mr. Hooker’s wife and children don’t agree but that’s tough; after all Hooker and Powers have the right to be happy don’t they? In fact if Hooker can talk his soon to be ex-wife into joining they could have a ménage à trois.

(2) “I don’t believe the way someone lives their life is any of my or anyone else’s business.”

Again Mr. Hooker and Miss Powers agree with you. Powers’ mother ought to keep her mouth shut and mind her own business as well as everyone in the community. The fact is every decent God-fearing person ought to be outraged at such selfish, callous immoral conduct!

(3) If you truly believe that being gay is a sin, then let me say this: “let him with no sin cast the first stone.”

If I had a dollar for every time I heard that verse misapplied I’d be very wealthy. If you believe adultery and fornication is a sin, then let me say this: “let him who is without sin cast the first stone”. How does that work in this situation? It doesn’t does it? What about in the case of lying, shoplifting, etc.? This alone shows how that Bible passage has been misapplied.

(4) I was always taught not to judge lest ye be judged…

The old “judge not lest you be judged” line. Few Bible verses are ripped out of context more than that one. Hooker & Powers will make the same “argument”. Never mind that they are not married and are fornicating; which fornication by the way is NO different than Ellen DeGeneres and her “partner”. BOTH are immoral.

(5) Unless you have walked a mile in anyone else’s shoes you can never speak of what they have to go through. When you judge others there is integrity lost. When you judge someone that you have not possibly know what their life is like you have opened yourself to be judged and to be seen by a “bigot”.

Wouldn’t it be nice if all of the news media and the community where Mr. Hooker and Miss Powers live had this same belief? I guess Powers’ mother just doesn’t understand all that Mr. Hooker has gone through in his life. She hasn’t “walked in his shoes”. The fact is she doesn’t have to and neither do we to make moral judgments based on God’s word. Just apply this “reasoning” to other moral issues and see how it works. It won’t!

Friends you cannot have it both ways. You must either condemn both or endorse both. The fact is both behaviors/conducts are sinful. The God of the Bible condemns both. Fornication (sexual immorality) is sin whether heterosexual or homosexual. But since people are determined to cling to immoral ungodly conduct they are in a dilemma from which they cannot escape. How sad! What’s even sadder is that many could care less about being involved in such inconsistency and self-contradiction. So much for truth and integrity.

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The Right To Do Wrong?

Posted on October 15, 2011 by droach
We live in a country that is obsessed with “rights”. Case in point- Have you seen this posting on Facebook? Perhaps you have posted it; reposted it or put your “thumbs up” in approval?

(Don’t like gay marriages? Don’t get one. Don’t like cigarettes? Don’t smoke them. Don’t like abortions? Don’t get one. Don’t like sex? Don’t have it. Don’t like drugs? Don’t do them. Don’t like porn? Don’t watch it. Don’t like alcohol? Don’t drink it. Don’t like guns? Don’t buy one. Don’t like your rights taken away? Don’t take away someone else’s! Re-post if you agree.)

Here are a few things to consider:

(1) The list is not complete. Please allow me to add to it. “Don’t like prostitution? Don’t go to one. Don’t like cocaine? Don’t snort it. Don’t like married men who have women on the side? Don’t do it. Don’t like polygamy? Don’t marry more than one person at a time. Etc.

(2) Before talking about “taking away someone else’s rights”, we need to ask, “Where did they get such a right and who gave them that right”? Who gave someone the right who is “gay” to marry? Who gave someone the right who watches porn to watch it? Who gave some the right who frequents a prostitute to do so? Etc.

(3) What is “legal” may not be “moral”. Could governments give its citizens the “right” to engage in each of the things listed above? Yes. Would that necessarily make any of these things morally right? No. Remember folks- No one in a position of authority, whether government, parents, employer, etc., has the right to give those under them the right to do what God said is wrong. Read Acts 5:29. Please think about this. The implications of rejecting this principle are great.

(4) Instead of declaring, “It’s my right” we ought to first ask, “Is it the moral thing to do”; is it the right thing to do”? We may have a “legal” right to do many things that are MORALLY wrong. Prostitution is “legal” in Nevada but it is not moral. “Same-sex marriage” is legal in a number of states but it is not moral.

Has our society and world become so distorted that we are afraid to make moral judgments about wicked and sinful behavior? It seems that the only moral judge that is made with great confidence is against those who dare to make moral judgments. Such foolishness ought to be challenged and exposed.

We may indeed be free but freedom is not synonymous with the right to act. God gives man the freedom to reject His Son but it would be wrong to do so. This list could also be expanded.

Before you and I talk about “our rights” we should first consider God’s will because we NEVER have the right to do what God said is wrong.

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The Roach-Cannon Email Exchange on Homosexuality

Posted on August 2, 2011 by droach

Note: The following is an email exchange between myself and Justin Cannon. Mr. Cannon is founder of Inclusive Orthodoxy; a website that promotes homosexuality, i.e. sexual relations between two human beings of the same sex. Mr. Cannon believes that such conduct is sanctioned in the Bible. He holds a Bachelor of Arts from Earlham College and a Master of Divinity from Church Divinity School of the Pacific in Berkeley, CA.

Some Questions To Answer

Tuesday, May 4, 2010 10:02 PM

From: “roach david” <roachd61@yahoo.com>

To: justincannon@truthsetsfree.net

Mr. Cannon,

In view of your position that homosexual conduct is in harmony with biblical teaching I have a few questions I was hoping you could answer.

1. Does the Bible, specifically the New Covenant, condemn fornication/sexual immorality?

2. According to the Bible, specifically the New Covenant:  If two college students, a young man of 22 and a young woman of 21, both unmarried, are engaging in consensual sexual relations with each other, would such relations between the two constitute fornication/sexual immorality?

3. According to the Bible, specifically the New Covenant: If two college students, a young woman of 23 and a young woman of 22, both unmarried, are engaging in consensual sexual relations with each other, would such relations between the two constitute fornication/sexual immorality?

4. If fornication/sexual immorality is not occurring in either of the two cases presented, please share a scenario in which it would be occurring.

Note: If you object to the term “fornication/sexual immorality” simply replace it with the word “sin”.

Thank you in advance for your answers.

D. Roach I

Re: Some Questions To Answer

Wednesday, May 5, 2010 12:52 AM

From: “Justin Cannon” <cannonboy@gmail.com>

To: “roach david” <roachd61@yahoo.com>

Hello,

Can you please tell me what your intent in asking these questions is?

In Christ,

Justin R. Cannon

Intent of my questions

Wednesday, May 5, 2010 7:06 AM

From: “roach david” <roachd61@yahoo.com>

To: cannonboy@gmail.com

Mr. Cannon,

My intent or purpose is two fold:

(1) Information- Information, if accurate, will help me to make better decisions about how I live and what I teach. I am sure that this is one of your purposes as well.

(2) Related to the issue of information- I believe the Bible and want to teach it accurately. I do not want to teach that certain conduct is sinful if the Bible does not. I do not want to tell someone that they have no right to be with another person sexually if God permits it. If I do then I am not being faithful to God or those I am trying to teach. I will answer to God for that. Each of these applies to you as well.

On your website (inclusiveorthodoxy.org) it reads- After years of study and prayer, Justin came to learn that the Bible only condemns homosexual activity within contexts of prostitution, pederasty, and otherwise cultic and abusive practices. According to his study, The Bible, Christianity, and Homosexuality, nothing in the Bible comes close to condemning a loving, committed, romantic, monogamous gay relationship.

My conclusions from the biblical text are the opposite. I believe the implications of your position are staggering. I believe the questions I pose demonstrate that. If this is not the case please share with me why.

Again I thank you in advance for your answers to my initial questions.

Sincerely,

D. Roach I

Re: Intent of my questions

Wednesday, May 5, 2010 10:27 AM

From: “Justin Cannon” <cannonboy@gmail.com>

To: “roach david” <roachd61@yahoo.com>

Hello,

Thank you for clarifying your views and where you are coming from.

It sounds like you have come to your own conclusions about those questions (an opposite opinion of mine), and are simply trying to fertilize the ground for a debate. I do not engage in debates, I am sorry.

If it’s just information you are looking for, I can suggest some books on this topic including Dirt, Greed, and Sex: Sexual Ethics in the New Testament and Their Implications for Today by L. William Countryman. I think it addresses many of the questions you are exploring. http://astore.amazon.com/truthsetsfree-20/detail/0800638484/177-9950618-4866360

Justin

Thanks For The AnswersWednesday, May 5, 2010 2:46 PM

From: “roach david” <roachd61@yahoo.com

To: cannonboy@gmail.com

Mr. Cannon,

I have come to some conclusions. I stated that my conclusions were opposite of yours in my second email. Whether or not those conclusions are correct is another issue, hence the reason for contacting you. (Note: I capitalize for emphasis).

I never mentioned debate. I asked some elementary Bible questions. It is disappointing that you question motive instead of answering the questions, at least explicitly. I only hope you don’t treat any other inquiries in this manner.

If YOUR answers to the questions I sent are opposite of mine and MY answers are “YES” in BOTH instances then YOUR answers must be “NO”. Did you ever think as a Bible believer you would answer “no” to whether consenting young men and young women could commit sexual immorality? I hope you will think about that.

In your desire to legitimize homosexual conduct you unwittingly must legitimized ALL sexual conduct between consenting human beings. You cannot, upon biblical grounds, condemn any sexual conduct between consenting human beings. These are the implications of your position.

I inquire not simply for information but the right information. What good is information if that information is not correct, truthful, or accurate? I assure you that NONE of the books you can suggest have considered the questions I have raised, including Mr. William Countryman’s. If you know of one specifically that does let me know.

If you know of someone else who can answer the questions I asked please feel free to share them with those persons.

Thanks for your time.

Sincerely,

D. Roach I

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“Gay Marriage”?

Posted on June 30, 2011 by droach

Last week the Governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, signed a bill into law allowing the marriage of two persons of the same gender; also known as “same-sex marriage” or “gay marriage”. And thus our society continues its downward spiral slide into sin and rebellion against the will of the only true and living God.

What are we to make of this? What does the Bible have to say about such a thing? What should the Christian’s response be? To be sure we should not be dormant and silent but rather active and verbal in our righteous opposition. The charge of being a “homophobe” or “hater” is lame and easily refuted; so get busy.

This issue is not difficult. It is not ambiguous or “fuzzy”. You don’t have to have a PhD or any other college degree to figure it out. In fact I have confronted numerous Doctors and Masters of Divinity with these very facts and questions that I will share below and every one of them has “run for cover”. I have zero respect for people who are so disingenuous. (You can read many of the exchanges at balancedpreaching.com).

Here are the facts of the case from the Bible-

Fact #1- The Bible, specifically the New Covenant, condemns fornication or sexual immorality. All you have to do is read Mk.7:21; 1 Cor.6:18; 2 Cor.12:21; Gal.5:19; and Eph.5:3 to be certain of that fact.

Fact #2- The Bible, specifically, the New Covenant, also teaches that all sexual relations between consenting human beings OUTSIDE of marriage are fornication; sexually immoral; sinful. Read 1 Cor.7:2-4; Heb.13:4. The combination or quantity of the persons involved does not matter. Whether it is heterosexual or homosexual or any other “sexual”; it is all the same; God condemns it ALL.

Fact #3- Under the New Covenant the marriage relationship involves ONE MAN (male) AND ONE WOMAN (female); that’s it. In fact this was God’s will and design from the beginning of the creation (Mk.10:6-9). The apostle Paul repeats this combination and quantity in (1 Cor.7:2-4).

In the face of these three facts the only thing left for defenders of “gay marriage” to do is demonstrate that 2 men or 2 women can, WITH GOD’S APPROVAL, enter the marriage relationship. I say as kindly as I can, yet as confidently as I can, that is a task they will NEVER accomplish.

Consider this additional request and questions- Besides one man and one woman give another combination of a marriage the New Covenant authorizes. Does the New Covenant authorize and endorse the marriage of two men or two women? If so please share the biblical evidence that supports it. If you can change genders from a (man & woman) to a (man & man) or a (woman & woman) why can’t you also change the quantity from (one man & one woman) to (a man and three women) and have polygamy? Why can’t you also change the species from (human & human) to (a human & an animal)? If not, why not? There are those who advocate such. Upon what grounds would you oppose it?

The point is clear. Once you erase God’s objective standard there is NO stopping. If you can erase or alter God’s law on marriage what is to stop anyone from erasing or altering any of God’s moral laws?

Someone may say, “I don’t believe in God or accept the Bible”! This position sounds “good” at first but it simply puts a person into more difficulty. Do you really want to take the position that “Whatever government decides to be moral is moral”? Have you stopped to think of the implications of such a position? I can list several instances in history where government endorsed and participated in actions that no one would label as moral. Does Nazi Germany of the 1930’s and 40’s ring a bell? How about Saddam Hussein in the 1980’s and 90’s?

It is not my intention to be indelicate, but if someone’s neighbor wants to have sex with another human being or an animal for that matter, that is their business; but I don’t want to know about; I will not endorse it and I don’t want them to demand it be labeled as moral and legitimate and taught to my children and grandchildren as such. I maintain the same position when it comes to all fornication (sexual immorality), be it heterosexual or homosexual or any other sexual conduct that deviates from God’s will.

P.S. If you believe anything I have presented here is inconsistent or contradictory, please by all means, point it out. The truth has nothing to fear.

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